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Liverpool; could they rain on Brum's parade?
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Topic Started: Aug 2 2010, 08:54 AM (1,143 Views)
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dr.nick
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Aug 3 2010, 08:04 AM
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I don't care about china, the club has enough supporters let's get them back instead.
So having 30,000 fans at the stadium is more important than selling 3000000 shirts in china? I thnk it goes hand in hand meself.
Shirt sales in china = £££ £££ = more players bought in of a certain pedegree/quality more players of a certain pedegree/quality bought in = more bums on seat in stadium. the 'china plan' and the 'bums on seat at home plan' are both as important and will both benifit each other.
It will never happen in any great term. If we started chalenging for things on a regular baciss or had one or two Chinese players we may have a chance to compete with the big clubs but at the moment it's a pipe dream.
Whats this obsession with "big" ? Is it a man thing ? :LMAO: Doc, the way I see it is that there exists two completely different business philosophies. The tried and tested - Sullivan / Brady one. Build up your team slowly (8 years mate to reach the Prem.) Get them solvent. Make a proffit that is big enough to take away some money for consultancy fees etc - if that harms transfer fees - hard luck. The other one is what we seem to be doing now. Find income streams that can actually grow. Year on year. Asian marketing to subsidise player fees and club development. Profits in the short term are as nothing to the income that will arise. No need to gobble up the last of each year's profits as either expenses or consultancy fees. It is all for the future. We do not have to be the biggest club in China. Why? Man Utd, Liverpool etc all have a presence there - via the TV. They are not going to be your daily news items - but blues are and will be. So could Liverpool with Chinese owners. Big difference in marketing here. Yeung I think is growing a presence, Man U and the others just "cash in" on their TV fame. We may not sell the same amount of shirts, but we can certainly build a following in China and Asia. As long as the owner remembers things like Transfer windows and when and when not to allow holidays. A bit of urgency may save a lot of worry and sell a few more tickets. Anyway mate, not, imo, a pipe dream. A very achievable prospect of new money to support blues and at the same time increase blues' strength at home. **thumbup
I know what your saying alf but many on here are thinking that hundreds of thousands of Chinese people will become bluenoses and buy all our merchandise.
It won't we will never be this big hit with football fans in china,
The only thing I think might happen is we may get some investment from some buisness for a slice of some marketing into british markets, like they have with xtep or what ever the make of our kit is now made by.
Whatever happens it's not going to be loads of dosh comming our way.
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Aug 3 2010, 08:08 AM
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It will certainly sell a lot of shirts
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Aug 3 2010, 03:35 PM
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it got me thinking... part of Carson's master-plan is for Blues to exploit the huge Chinese market but i wonder how well we could do that against a club with the history of Liverpool. add to that the fact that the guy interested in them is government backed - not to mention they play in all red, ridiculous but could be a factor for some.
so if this went through, and if reports are true then it will happen in the next few weeks in order to give Hodgson money to spend, then where would it leave Blues?
It got me thinking along the same lines.
Anybody like Sunderland, Blackburn, West Ham would have been a welcome addition to the "Chinese-owned Club" as I am sure two is better than one - promoting and tapping into the Chinese market.
But Liverpool? - the fact that the tv companies over there will constantly show their games would be a killer for us. I know mainland China is new to football and don't know the tradition and history of Liverpool which is why you don't see many Liverpool shirts in mainland China, but the constant tv exposure of them (if they become Chinese owned) will set us, or in particular Carson Yeung, right back.
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Aug 3 2010, 03:38 PM
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:unsure: just wondering if the proposed investment from Chinese billionaire Kenny Huang, and his hong kong investment co QSL, will divert investors from potential Blues investment
I know there's enough to go around, but how do you feel that the slice of that Market may be sliced a bit thinner . :angry:
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Aug 3 2010, 03:41 PM
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Sorry guys just noticed somebody has already raised this issue
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Aug 3 2010, 03:42 PM
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:unsure: just wondering if the proposed investment from Chinese billionaire Kenny Huang, and his hong kong investment co QSL, will divert investors from potential Blues investment I know there's enough to go around, but how do you feel that the slice of that Market may be sliced a bit thinner . :angry:
Now there's a question that should be asked - how come no-one has already asked it :LMAO:
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Aug 3 2010, 04:42 PM
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it got me thinking... part of Carson's master-plan is for Blues to exploit the huge Chinese market but i wonder how well we could do that against a club with the history of Liverpool. add to that the fact that the guy interested in them is government backed - not to mention they play in all red, ridiculous but could be a factor for some.
so if this went through, and if reports are true then it will happen in the next few weeks in order to give Hodgson money to spend, then where would it leave Blues?
It got me thinking along the same lines. Anybody like Sunderland, Blackburn, West Ham would have been a welcome addition to the "Chinese-owned Club" as I am sure two is better than one - promoting and tapping into the Chinese market. But Liverpool? - the fact that the tv companies over there will constantly show their games would be a killer for us. I know mainland China is new to football and don't know the tradition and history of Liverpool which is why you don't see many Liverpool shirts in mainland China, but the constant tv exposure of them (if they become Chinese owned) will set us, or in particular Carson Yeung, right back.
.....or how I sometimes think the media work, we will be attached to Liverpool in every sentence over there; "China have two clubs." and "Carson, the first China based owner." etc. Expect lots of photo ops when we play each other.
It might not be a bad thing?
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Aug 3 2010, 11:40 PM
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Aug 5 2010, 09:50 AM
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it got me thinking... part of Carson's master-plan is for Blues to exploit the huge Chinese market but i wonder how well we could do that against a club with the history of Liverpool. add to that the fact that the guy interested in them is government backed - not to mention they play in all red, ridiculous but could be a factor for some.
so if this went through, and if reports are true then it will happen in the next few weeks in order to give Hodgson money to spend, then where would it leave Blues?
It got me thinking along the same lines. Anybody like Sunderland, Blackburn, West Ham would have been a welcome addition to the "Chinese-owned Club" as I am sure two is better than one - promoting and tapping into the Chinese market. But Liverpool? - the fact that the tv companies over there will constantly show their games would be a killer for us. I know mainland China is new to football and don't know the tradition and history of Liverpool which is why you don't see many Liverpool shirts in mainland China, but the constant tv exposure of them (if they become Chinese owned) will set us, or in particular Carson Yeung, right back.
.....or how I sometimes think the media work, we will be attached to Liverpool in every sentence over there; "China have two clubs." and "Carson, the first China based owner." etc. Expect lots of photo ops when we play each other. It might not be a bad thing?
...the media angle is worse than I realised. It is the Chines Govt that's behind the takeover. The same Chinese Govt that is totalitarian and owns/runs the Chinese media. A little editorial tweeking in Liverpool's favour I imagine.
What a pity the fit and proper Premier League test doesn't go as far as ethics. I,ve heard this same Chinese Government has breached a few human rights.
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Aug 5 2010, 09:57 AM
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there is more than one takeover bid isn't there and the chinese guy has distanced himself from it saying he would only be interested in investing.
In that case why does CY not approach him to join our revolution
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Aug 5 2010, 10:21 AM
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it got me thinking... part of Carson's master-plan is for Blues to exploit the huge Chinese market but i wonder how well we could do that against a club with the history of Liverpool. add to that the fact that the guy interested in them is government backed - not to mention they play in all red, ridiculous but could be a factor for some.
so if this went through, and if reports are true then it will happen in the next few weeks in order to give Hodgson money to spend, then where would it leave Blues?
It got me thinking along the same lines. Anybody like Sunderland, Blackburn, West Ham would have been a welcome addition to the "Chinese-owned Club" as I am sure two is better than one - promoting and tapping into the Chinese market. But Liverpool? - the fact that the tv companies over there will constantly show their games would be a killer for us. I know mainland China is new to football and don't know the tradition and history of Liverpool which is why you don't see many Liverpool shirts in mainland China, but the constant tv exposure of them (if they become Chinese owned) will set us, or in particular Carson Yeung, right back.
.....or how I sometimes think the media work, we will be attached to Liverpool in every sentence over there; "China have two clubs." and "Carson, the first China based owner." etc. Expect lots of photo ops when we play each other. It might not be a bad thing?
...the media angle is worse than I realised. It is the Chines Govt that's behind the takeover. The same Chinese Govt that is totalitarian and owns/runs the Chinese media. A little editorial tweeking in Liverpool's favour I imagine. What a pity the fit and proper Premier League test doesn't go as far as ethics. I,ve heard this same Chinese Government has breached a few human rights.
On a positive note. This could result in shirt sales as an anti-government protest which may mean 1/2 the chinese population wearing Blues shirts, and probably the whole of Tibet , plenty of revenue for more players.
People need alternatives , especially an alternative from one that could be 'imposed'.
We would all be happy if we were 2nd in shirt sales in England - 2nd in China is all good.
In the 'business world' asda will try to build close to tesco. They don't try to build so that they are on their own.
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it got me thinking... part of Carson's master-plan is for Blues to exploit the huge Chinese market but i wonder how well we could do that against a club with the history of Liverpool. add to that the fact that the guy interested in them is government backed - not to mention they play in all red, ridiculous but could be a factor for some.
so if this went through, and if reports are true then it will happen in the next few weeks in order to give Hodgson money to spend, then where would it leave Blues?
It got me thinking along the same lines. Anybody like Sunderland, Blackburn, West Ham would have been a welcome addition to the "Chinese-owned Club" as I am sure two is better than one - promoting and tapping into the Chinese market. But Liverpool? - the fact that the tv companies over there will constantly show their games would be a killer for us. I know mainland China is new to football and don't know the tradition and history of Liverpool which is why you don't see many Liverpool shirts in mainland China, but the constant tv exposure of them (if they become Chinese owned) will set us, or in particular Carson Yeung, right back.
.....or how I sometimes think the media work, we will be attached to Liverpool in every sentence over there; "China have two clubs." and "Carson, the first China based owner." etc. Expect lots of photo ops when we play each other. It might not be a bad thing?
...the media angle is worse than I realised. It is the Chines Govt that's behind the takeover. The same Chinese Govt that is totalitarian and owns/runs the Chinese media. A little editorial tweeking in Liverpool's favour I imagine. What a pity the fit and proper Premier League test doesn't go as far as ethics. I,ve heard this same Chinese Government has breached a few human rights.
On a positive note. This could result in shirt sales as an anti-government protest which may mean 1/2 the chinese population wearing Blues shirts, and probably the whole of Tibet , plenty of revenue for more players. People need alternatives , especially an alternative from one that could be 'imposed'. We would all be happy if we were 2nd in shirt sales in England - 2nd in China is all good. In the 'business world' asda will try to build close to tesco. They don't try to build so that they are on their own.
i agree there will be positives from this.
just a pity we could not be 3 or 4 seasons further ahead.
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it got me thinking... part of Carson's master-plan is for Blues to exploit the huge Chinese market but i wonder how well we could do that against a club with the history of Liverpool. add to that the fact that the guy interested in them is government backed - not to mention they play in all red, ridiculous but could be a factor for some.
so if this went through, and if reports are true then it will happen in the next few weeks in order to give Hodgson money to spend, then where would it leave Blues?
It got me thinking along the same lines. Anybody like Sunderland, Blackburn, West Ham would have been a welcome addition to the "Chinese-owned Club" as I am sure two is better than one - promoting and tapping into the Chinese market. But Liverpool? - the fact that the tv companies over there will constantly show their games would be a killer for us. I know mainland China is new to football and don't know the tradition and history of Liverpool which is why you don't see many Liverpool shirts in mainland China, but the constant tv exposure of them (if they become Chinese owned) will set us, or in particular Carson Yeung, right back.
.....or how I sometimes think the media work, we will be attached to Liverpool in every sentence over there; "China have two clubs." and "Carson, the first China based owner." etc. Expect lots of photo ops when we play each other. It might not be a bad thing?
...the media angle is worse than I realised. It is the Chines Govt that's behind the takeover. The same Chinese Govt that is totalitarian and owns/runs the Chinese media. A little editorial tweeking in Liverpool's favour I imagine. What a pity the fit and proper Premier League test doesn't go as far as ethics. I,ve heard this same Chinese Government has breached a few human rights.
On a positive note. This could result in shirt sales as an anti-government protest which may mean 1/2 the chinese population wearing Blues shirts, and probably the whole of Tibet , plenty of revenue for more players. People need alternatives , especially an alternative from one that could be 'imposed'. We would all be happy if we were 2nd in shirt sales in England - 2nd in China is all good. In the 'business world' asda will try to build close to tesco. They don't try to build so that they are on their own.
I love your positive spin JK.
But, the Chinese Govt will build more jails to throw your "alternatives in blue shirts" in. And, Tesco and Asda are not run by a totalitarian government.
PS on the subject of alternatives how's the independance for Cornwall coming on?
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it got me thinking... part of Carson's master-plan is for Blues to exploit the huge Chinese market but i wonder how well we could do that against a club with the history of Liverpool. add to that the fact that the guy interested in them is government backed - not to mention they play in all red, ridiculous but could be a factor for some.
so if this went through, and if reports are true then it will happen in the next few weeks in order to give Hodgson money to spend, then where would it leave Blues?
It got me thinking along the same lines. Anybody like Sunderland, Blackburn, West Ham would have been a welcome addition to the "Chinese-owned Club" as I am sure two is better than one - promoting and tapping into the Chinese market. But Liverpool? - the fact that the tv companies over there will constantly show their games would be a killer for us. I know mainland China is new to football and don't know the tradition and history of Liverpool which is why you don't see many Liverpool shirts in mainland China, but the constant tv exposure of them (if they become Chinese owned) will set us, or in particular Carson Yeung, right back.
.....or how I sometimes think the media work, we will be attached to Liverpool in every sentence over there; "China have two clubs." and "Carson, the first China based owner." etc. Expect lots of photo ops when we play each other. It might not be a bad thing?
...the media angle is worse than I realised. It is the Chines Govt that's behind the takeover. The same Chinese Govt that is totalitarian and owns/runs the Chinese media. A little editorial tweeking in Liverpool's favour I imagine. What a pity the fit and proper Premier League test doesn't go as far as ethics. I,ve heard this same Chinese Government has breached a few human rights.
On a positive note. This could result in shirt sales as an anti-government protest which may mean 1/2 the chinese population wearing Blues shirts, and probably the whole of Tibet , plenty of revenue for more players. People need alternatives , especially an alternative from one that could be 'imposed'. We would all be happy if we were 2nd in shirt sales in England - 2nd in China is all good. In the 'business world' asda will try to build close to tesco. They don't try to build so that they are on their own.
I love your positive spin JK. But, the Chinese Govt will build more jails to throw your "alternatives in blue shirts" in. And, Tesco and Asda are not run by a totalitarian government. PS on the subject of alternatives how's the independance for Cornwall coming on?
Yeung better start getting his contacts sorted out in the goverment.
Why has Yeung not tried to tap into this overseas fund that China has, or has he
Has Yeung tried to bring Kenny Huang on board with him?
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OFF SUBJECT lowds i live next door to a 'mebyan curnow' man, he's a brummy, supports manure in the usual plastic way, and advocates 'Cornwall for the Cornish' and was elected??? Cornwall beggars belief sometimes. :banghead:
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So how come theres so many people from the midlands living there.
As for China, maybe our board knew we would only get abit of the market at the moment but if we could win the F A CUP one season then it would up our profile.
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China’s CIC denies interest in Liverpool FC By Jamil Anderlini in Beijing and Justine Lau in Hong Kong
Published: August 5 2010 14:21 | Last updated: August 5 2010 14:21
Chinese fans may lament the low calibre of their domestic men’s football teams, but that does not mean the Chinese government would consider buying debt-laden Liverpool Football Club.
A spokesperson for China Investment Corp, the country’s main sovereign wealth fund, told the Financial Times on Thursday they had never heard of a plan to buy Liverpool or of Kenneth Huang, the man widely reported to be fronting a Chinese bid to buy the English Premier League club. **thumbup
But Mr Huang himself issued a statement on Wednesday night saying that although he has registered interest in investing in Liverpool, he has not made a formal bid.
“There has been much speculation and commentary from a wide array of people, many of whom have little knowledge of the facts,” Mr Huang said.
A person who has worked closely with CIC said there was “no way” the fund would get involved in such a high-profile, symbolic and potentially risky deal. **thumbup
“Next they’ll say CIC is going to buy Playboy,” this person said. :LMAO:
A person close to Mr Huang told the Financial Times on Monday that his bid was backed by a “sovereign wealth fund from the Far East” but declined to name the fund.
There had been no suggestion internally at Liverpool that CIC was involved in Mr Huang’s bid, another person close to the situation said.
Portrayed in the UK press as a Chinese billionaire tycoon, Mr Huang runs QSL Sports Limited, a sports marketing company that is trying to develop a new basketball league in China and promote Little League (youth) baseball in a country where most people know nothing about the sport.
QSL’s website says the company is based out of Hong Kong and located at a prestigious address. However, when the Financial Times visited the office there was no sign of QSL and the management company of the building said no company by that name rented an office there. :o
A person who answered the phone at QSL in Hong Kong at first said the company was still at the address listed on the website, but when told that the management company of the building had denied this, then said the company had moved and its new address was a secret. :LOL:
At QSL’s small office in central Beijing, company employees were still unpacking boxes having recently moved from a much smaller office. A staff member said the company employed around 15 people in Beijing but he had not heard about a plan to buy Liverpool FC.
After repeated questions to Mr Huang’s spokeswoman, the office addresses were removed from QSL’s website on Thursday afternoon.
An official biography of Mr Huang says he is an investor in a Chinese basketball team and in 1988 became the first Chinese college graduate from mainland China to work at the New York Stock Exchange, where he “started his career in public relations”.
He also founded an investment company called Rocket Capital with Leslie Alexander, owner of the Houston Rockets basketball team, and has made a number of investments in Chinese companies. Mr Huang’s spokeswoman could not confirm whether he was still involved with Rocket Capital.
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http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6296243,00.html
The Chinese government's foreign investment arm, China Investment Corporation, have denied funding a bid for Liverpool.
The Chinese Government have been linked to a takeover bid fronted by Kenny Huang for the Anfield outfit.
Reports have suggested Huang's takeover bid was backed by the state-funded China Investment Corporation (CIC).
However, a spokesperson for CIC claims they are not involved in any bid for the English giants.
The spokesperson told the Financial Times there was "no way" the fund would get involved in such a high-profile, symbolic and potentially risky deal.
Hong Kong-based investor Huang admitted his interest on Wednesday and is thought to value the club at about £325m, but has not yet made a formal offer.
A number of parties are thought to be in talks with Liverpool over a possible deal with Syrian businessman Yahya Kirdi claiming his consortium of Canadian and Middle East investors has agreed a deal with current Liverpool owners George Gillett and Tom Hicks.
This sounds like the one that has the most credability.
Lets hope so so :Blues: and Yueng get more time as the Chinese club. **thumbup
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If I was a betting man I'd say that Liverpool will be sold soon - but to either a middle eastern or Indian consortium. If it happens to be a Chinese group, it wont be anything to do with the Chinese Government. Not their modus operandi.
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